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There was a time not too long ago when the Pastor-Teacher was respected. I fear those days are passing more quickly, if not already gone, particularly within Calvinist circles. Those men of God, called by God to a life of shepherding the flock I believe is under attack by forces of darkness that have weaseled their way into the Church, and are very effectively making headway.
When I was growing up, the community as a whole at least had somewhat of a respect for the local Pastor-teacher, mainly because in spite of their ignorance of the Word of God, people knew this man dealt with the higher mysteries of life, its benefit to the present life, and the hereafter, and was dedicated to proclaiming the truth of God whether they liked it or not. True, they might not like it, but they at least had regard for the position in community. I remember those days, but the internet has changed everything. New Calvinists have rejected the calling of Pastor-teacher itself. They electronically spit on pastor-teachers as if they were dried dung to be kicked aside.
I’ve watched those days of respectability decay over the years, and it saddens me. Oh, here and there, I find a pastor-teacher, usually somewhere in the South who commands respect as God’s man, but such a man and his influence is dwindling and, I fear again, being dismissed by the new Calvinist cult particularly.
New church plantings, in the name of being biblical, are dismissing, or have already, the office of pastor-teacher, in spite of God’s teaching in Ephesians 4:11. They exchange God’s truth for their preference of an elder-ruled fellowship. In other words, there is no under-shepherd. There is no authority. They recognize two offices only, elder and deacon. I so reject, on biblical grounds, their position as unbiblical. You are free to disagree but read Ephesians 4:11 then look me in the eye and call Jesus a liar.
When Jesus ascended, he gave gifts to men, and one was the office of Pastor-teacher. The new Calvinists who insist on only two offices of elder and deacon may squirm uneasily, and I hope they do, but God has given it to men, and it is so. The gift of pastor-teacher, is ignored, and intentionally. Baptists no longer are unashamed to call themselves such, and that saddens me too. They want to fit in with the new calvinist movement, a mixture of reformed and charismatic theology that equals nothing less than a debacle of truth and a cesspool of error, led by celebrity preachers practicing various methods of ancient mysticism using new-fangled media to communicate and inspire a hoard of hungry youths, and they are succeeding. God gave the gift of Pastor-teacher to men and called them to such a work to minister and equip the saints to the work of the ministry. Yet new Calvinists reject that truth.
No, I will remain a Baptist Pastor, respected or not, employed or not, because that is what God called me to. I may be dismissed as irrelevant, but I do not cease being what He made and called me in regards to service
New Calvinists employ mysticism. They deny cessationism, and endorse emergent, catholic, universal teachings, among other things. The push to accept the ‘gifts of the Spirit’ is a push for acceptance of error and danger for the Church at large. The combination of Pentecostal/charismatic theology and reformed theology is a grave error, but it’s too late, it’s being done, and many young people, enthused about the doctrines of grace, are assisting in that very thing.
It’s wrong, it’s unbiblical, please stop.
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I am an old calvinist, in so many ways.
Pastor-teachers are given by the ascended Lord Jesus Christ to the church. The elders and deacons are elected by the church (members) to meet/handle the church’s earthly needs.
I’m not too crazy about Baptist theology, OR Calvinist theology.
Too much ‘reason’, and too much emphasis on what ‘we do’.
But hey… we are not saved by our ‘good theology’ (although proper doctrine is important).
I’m not too crazy about non-Baptist theology, OR non-Calvinistic theology.
Too little reason, and too much emphasis on what ‘ we do.’
But hey….we are not saved by our ‘good theology’but then neither are we saved by bad theology (and bad theology is always in the end, destructive).
And in a totally unrelated matter, Peter, I am not sure I understand your dichotomy.
I agree with this post. But new Calvinist “cult”? Really?
Yes, bad theology is destructive. Thanks be to God that He can overcome bad theology if He’s after someone.
The Roman Catholics, for example. They are semi-Pelagain to the core.
A little of God and a little of me.
Terrible theology. Is it the fault of the average Joe and Mary in the pew that they are receiving such bad theology?
Will God hold that against them?
Joel – so you’re of the opinion that the pastor/teacher and the elder are not the same office?
I’m of the opinion that not all elders are preaching/teaching elders, as is evidenced in the NT.
OK – I’ve pondered that phrase in 1 Tim 5:17 for a while and um undecided about the actual intent. I have a problem with “ruling elders” who do not teach (as Presbyterians do it) and read in 1 Tim 3 that, to be qualified to serve as an elder, one must able to teach. I do see the preaching of the Word as THE most important function of the church.
Joel,
I am afraid that “when we all get to Heaven” the all may not be what it is advertised to be by the modern version of American “Christianity”. New Calvinism is one problematic form of false teaching and there are SO many others going around. The good, solid, perfect, and hard-to-believe truth called the Bible is all we have to rely upon. Let’s believe what it says. Continue to teach & preach as long as you can. There will probably come a day when it will not be allowed…
T.