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	<title>Comments on: Alistair Begg &#8211; Why He&#8217;s Not Signing The Manhattan Declaration</title>
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	<description>By His Grace, For His Glory.</description>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 21:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This comment is a small variation of what I wrote about J. Mac.

- This document is not trying to define Christianity as its primary goal.

- It states costly grace…not cheap grace…reference D. Bonhoeffer.

- I think ecumenicalism…i.e. let’s put down our differences and have group-hug – is dangerous and will drag the faith and gospel down. I assume I’m speaking your language.

- But this document is not trying to unify the faith over the gospel; it is stating there are a few important issues of the day that we are all fighting. Even if you do not sign, you are for it functionally.

- The Man. Decl. is an obvious effort to state to the Government that we “Christians” stand together and will not submit to their authority when pressed on these issues.

So what will you do? Will you submit to the powers when they take your take tax money for abortion? Will you quiet yourself and not preach against the sin of homosexuality? 

You will probably have the same conviction as we signers do and will perform in unity with the Man. Decl. signers.

Functionally, you have approved of it because you agree with it and stand aloof in empty sense of acheivement.  Wow! Not very impressive, helpful or thoughtful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment is a small variation of what I wrote about J. Mac.</p>
<p>- This document is not trying to define Christianity as its primary goal.</p>
<p>- It states costly grace…not cheap grace…reference D. Bonhoeffer.</p>
<p>- I think ecumenicalism…i.e. let’s put down our differences and have group-hug – is dangerous and will drag the faith and gospel down. I assume I’m speaking your language.</p>
<p>- But this document is not trying to unify the faith over the gospel; it is stating there are a few important issues of the day that we are all fighting. Even if you do not sign, you are for it functionally.</p>
<p>- The Man. Decl. is an obvious effort to state to the Government that we “Christians” stand together and will not submit to their authority when pressed on these issues.</p>
<p>So what will you do? Will you submit to the powers when they take your take tax money for abortion? Will you quiet yourself and not preach against the sin of homosexuality? </p>
<p>You will probably have the same conviction as we signers do and will perform in unity with the Man. Decl. signers.</p>
<p>Functionally, you have approved of it because you agree with it and stand aloof in empty sense of acheivement.  Wow! Not very impressive, helpful or thoughtful.</p>
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		<title>By: truthinator</title>
		<link>http://5ptsalt.com/2009/12/01/alistair-begg-why-hes-not-signing-the-manhattan-declaration/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truthinator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Si, good question. Christians are not and cannot be ecumenical with nonChristians... We can be in agreement on civil and political issues as citizens of our city, state, and country but we cannot join as Christians to nonChristians. Why is this so hard? The Bible is so clear. 
T.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Si, good question. Christians are not and cannot be ecumenical with nonChristians&#8230; We can be in agreement on civil and political issues as citizens of our city, state, and country but we cannot join as Christians to nonChristians. Why is this so hard? The Bible is so clear.<br />
T.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Johnston</title>
		<link>http://5ptsalt.com/2009/12/01/alistair-begg-why-hes-not-signing-the-manhattan-declaration/#comment-1509</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matthew Johnston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the purpose of the declaration? 

I mean it was obviosuly written in an ecumenical spirit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the purpose of the declaration? </p>
<p>I mean it was obviosuly written in an ecumenical spirit.</p>
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